Monday, November 21, 2011

Diana P5 Magnum Second Range Test

Well, I went to the range yesterday, and here are the targets and results. I was going to shoot 25 of each pellet, but when I got to the Hyper Max pellets, they were shooting such tight groups that I had to shoot a lot more of them in order to see the true range of variability. (I ended up shooting 40 Hyper Max pellets.) I think you can see by these pictures that the Hyper Max is the true champion when it comes to accuracy; 58% of the Hyper Max pellets went through the same, quarter-sized hole. Only 40% of the Crosman pellets hit the same mark. Both targets were shot standing, at a distance of 7 yards (21 feet) with open sights, using a police-style, 2-handed grip.


25 shots with Crosman SSP 4.0 grain pellets @ 7 yards, police-style 2-handed stance.
About 10 of the 25 shots hit this quarter-sized area.
The red area is 3 inches in diameter.



40 shots with RWS Hyper Max 5.2 grain pellets @ 7 yards, police-style 2-handed stance.



Again, the red area is 3 inches in diameter.



About 23 of the 40 shots went through this quarter-sized hole.

I also chronographed these two pellet types. Here are the results. The first Hyper Max result was due to dieseling, I believe. I cleaned the barrel with an alcohol swab, then put a drop of silicone lubricant on the breech seal just before shooting the chronograph test.

Hyper Max 5.2 Grain: 718, 683, 663, 650, 639, 658, 644, 659, 656, 649
Average: 661.9 (662 fps)
Taking off the first 2 results: Average: 652.25 (652 fps)
Foot Pounds of Energy (FPE): 4.91 [Let's round this up to 5.0, since our last result was 5.17]

Crosman SSP 4.0 Grain: 787, 792, 789, 784, 782, 775, 785, 785, 785, 786
Average: 785 fps
Foot Pounds of Energy (FPE): 5.47 [Let's round this up to 5.5, just to be fair to the Crosman pellet.]

As you can see, while Hyper Max gives superior accuracy, the Crosman SSPs deliver more velocity and power.

785 vs. 652 = Over 130 fps faster!
5.5 vs. 5.0 = 10% more energy delivered.

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EDITORIAL NOTE: (This comment was added 03-19-2014, more than 2 years after the original post, by an older and wiser Scientific Airgunner!) The super-light-weight pellets (less than 5 grains in weight) should not be used, because they put additional and unwanted stress on the gun's mainspring; thus, despite the fact that SSPs deliver slightly more velocity and power, Hyper Max pellets are a better choice, because they aren't hard on your gun. However, I wouldn't shoot anything under 7 grains nowadays, because retained energy at the point of impact suffers greatly in lighter pellets. Look at the following post for details:  



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You may have noticed the "flyer" at the bottom of the Hyper Max target, this is not an error of the gun, it is human error. I was at the gun range on a very busy day, and there were large caliber pistols going off all around me, and at times, that made it hard to concentrate. That particular shot came after a cease-fire had ended, and I kind of jumped when all the shooting commenced again.

Well folks, that's all for now. I hope to make the next post about my new Crosman Titan GP rifle. I have toyed around with it a little, but I haven't taken it to the range for any serious target work (yet!)




Saturday, November 5, 2011

Pellet Data Chart For The Diana P5 Magnum

Data for Diana P5 Magnum
The other day, it occurred to me that it would be a good idea to have the data that I posted on other websites posted here as well, in case the other websites happen to either go away, change web hosts, or lose their data to an unexpected crash. So here it is, complete with bar chart. Each pellet (listed by brand and weight) was chronographed ten times, and then the average of those results was used to calculate FPE (Foot Pounds of Energy.)

Cabela's Ultra Mag (10.56 Grain) = 417, 410, 394, 408, 402, 416, 414, 418, 411, 421
(avg = 411.1) @ 411 fps = 4.11 FPE


Gamo Rocket (9.6 Grain) = 451, 450, 451, 457, 453, 454, 440, 434, 472, 445
(avg = 450.7) @ 450 fps = 4.32 FPE


RWS Meisterkugeln Pro Line (8.2 Grain) = 504, 504, 510, 505, 498, 512, 516, 510, 512, 499
(avg = 507) @ 507 fps = 4.68 FPE


Gamo Tomahawk (7.8 Grain) = 531, 506, 526, 533, 525, 509, 503, 537, 527, 524
(avg = 522.1) @ 522 fps = 4.72 FPE


RWS Hypermax (5.2 Grain) = 671, 667, 664, 673, 669, 668, 663, 670, 675, 675
(avg = 669.5) @ 669 fps = 5.17 FPE

I find it interesting that the FPE was greatest in the lighter pellets. It would seem that although mass plays a large factor in the hitting power of a projectile, velocity can have a pronounced effect as well.

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EDITORIAL NOTE: (This comment was added 03-20-2014, more than 2 years after the original post, by an older and wiser Scientific Airgunner!) The Hyper Max pellets WILL get you close to the 700 FPS that is promised on the box, and they weigh JUST ENOUGH that they aren't hard on your gun. (Pellets that weigh 4.9 grains or less will place additional stress and "wear & tear" on your spring; pellets that weigh 5.0 grains or more won't. That's why RWS makes their "light pellet" heavier than most other manufacturers.) However, I wouldn't shoot anything under 7 grains nowadays, because retained energy at the point of impact suffers greatly in lighter pellets. Look at the following post for details:  


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